tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post1019397001952617462..comments2018-03-19T23:50:31.686+01:00Comments on Business or Pleasure? - why not both: Attribution: a lost art?Martijn Linssenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00573419401627232560noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post-6717166754568322152010-07-16T15:35:05.194+02:002010-07-16T15:35:05.194+02:00Thank you very much Arjan! Glad this one made it, ...Thank you very much Arjan! Glad this one made it, I changed the heading when you comment to remind people to "quickly copy before posting" - you're person number three now...<br /><br />Yes 140 characters isn't much and shuffling RT's for VIA's takes time too, but I agree with you that it's accrediting people what counts much, not being (among) the first to spread other people's news<br /><br />After all, it's still Social Media ;-)Martijn Linssenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00573419401627232560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post-7813407998275777182010-07-16T11:35:26.898+02:002010-07-16T11:35:26.898+02:00Second attempt :).
First f all: great issue you ha...Second attempt :).<br />First f all: great issue you have put on the table here, Martijn. Thanks.<br />For me, attribution is both recognition and a way of saying thanks. Recognition of the originality of thoughts reflected in a post, tweet or status update. That is why I like the rise of the like-button. It's a simple way of saying: wow, nice thought; or wow, nice find.<br />And saying thanks for sharing an idea or thought, or pointing me to something that added value for me in some way.<br /><br />With the limited number of characters available in a tweet, I regularly choose to attribute it to the one that pointed me to a piece of content, and then link to the original post, so that the source gets the credit for the thought, and the finder for pointing it out to me. To me, that seems rather fair. But most important to me is the original thought. Especially the lesser known ones. Sure, we all value Mashable and Tech Crunch, but to give some credits to the slightly lesser known, such as this blog is something I find more valuable than being perceived as the one who's quickest in spotting a new Mashable post.Arjan Tupanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10902542337420820696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post-79507787724154233102010-07-15T10:00:10.787+02:002010-07-15T10:00:10.787+02:00Thank you Rick, Harold and Zoli
Thanks for the wo...Thank you Rick, Harold and Zoli<br /><br />Thanks for the word-boggles Rick, and yes it's annoying to say the least. By the way this post is not to pick on Jevon, he usually RT's properly, but it was a good example of how you can get massive RT's on someone else's work<br /><br />Zoli, I included all the tweets, and I thought I made it clear enough what I understand 'attribution' to mean. In your logic you would never have to RT or VIA or HT because you always point to the post itself<br /><br />Non-attribution is especially disgusting cross-timezone and cross-language. I notice people from the Netherlands tweeting in their own language (great excuse to not RT) when it serves them well, bringing big news as if it were their own<br /><br />Which strikes me because I've seen the news being aired on Twitter throughout the day or night, properly attributed mostly, and then suddenly there is this Dutch tweet conjuring it from out of thin air. It turns those people into magical thought leaders and news finders for their Dutch audienceMartijn Linssenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00573419401627232560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post-88847371706948321492010-07-15T01:42:38.886+02:002010-07-15T01:42:38.886+02:00Interesting post, and I guess linking to Jevon'...Interesting post, and I guess linking to Jevon's tweet would have ruined the logic... since Jevon links to the TechCrunch post.<br />http://twitter.com/jevon/status/18537667046Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post-442945727728249962010-07-15T00:34:20.585+02:002010-07-15T00:34:20.585+02:00The digital environment makes copying very (too) e...The digital environment makes copying very (too) easy. Add in the 140 character limitation of Twitter, plus a first to post sub-culture and you get what you describe. BTW, I know @jevon personally and he's a really nice guy.Harold Jarchehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11462304722726586155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6081361780079434787.post-67835602087381567982010-07-14T21:54:54.827+02:002010-07-14T21:54:54.827+02:00This is, indeed, a sticky wicket as well as a slip...This is, indeed, a sticky wicket as well as a slippery slope (how's that for a mixed metaphor and, to boot, who the hell can I attribute it to?) I wonder if Twitter's lousy retweet feature is part of the problem, though I have no doubt there are lots of very sloppy "thinkers" out there. Piracy hasn't magically disappeared.<br /><br />I learned a long time ago, especially driven home in Law School, the value of attribution - we called them citations :) In argumentation their lack can be fatal to your cause; in Twitter their lack is mostly annoying, though it does tend to skew the perceived value of the "thoughts" people are credited with.<br /><br />I'm glad you brought this up, Martijn (you too Sameer). I have noticed this issue, but never paid detailed attention to it. Now I've had the opportunity. Hope this kind of scrutiny continues. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com